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03 May 2007
Freightliner Cascadia Discussion, share your views

Check out the new Freightliner Cascadia for awesome fuel economy, 3 percent improvement over previous models. 

  "With EPA ’10 right around the corner, the Cascadia was designed to easily accept EPA ’07 emission engines and adapt with little change to the new EPA ’10 standards. Its expandable DaimlerChrysler-engineered electronic platform can easily accommodate the technology. Plus, the Cascadia was built to be optimized with the all-new EPA ’10-ready Detroit Diesel heavy-duty engine family, the first of which will debut later this year. Known within DaimlerChrysler as the Heavy-duty Engine Platform, this engine family will be used in Truck Group vehicles worldwide, following its launch in Freightliner LLC vehicles."

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Posted by TruckerJim at 1:55 PM  |  LINK to this post  |  45 comment s  |  Subscribe

Hey - Pretty exciting about the news Cascadia. They built a site called . Imagine a fictional tourism for a trucking utopia. Brilliant!
Posted by Alan on May 3, 2007 at 7:48 PM

Alan...Thanks for that info, pretty cool Freightliner is moving in this direction, sort of like secondlife. Very creative, looks like a great truck too!
Posted by TruckerJim on May 4, 2007 at 7:25 AM

Secondlife! Great comparison. Very cool for Freightliner.
Posted by Alan on May 4, 2007 at 9:13 AM

I recently purchased 2 Cascadia's, sister trucks 1 VIN apart and can't say I'm happy at all. Their "5.5mpg a thing of the past" slogan is a pretty ambitious staement as we're barely getting 5.6. I have also had nothing but electrical problems starting from no brake lights on the trailers to the fuel guages having minds of their own. HUGELY DISAPPOINTED!!!
Posted by Regretfull on March 1, 2008 at 5:39 AM

Regretfull...Thanks for sharing that. I hope they're working to make things right? Might be an in for Lonestar.
Posted by TruckerJim on March 1, 2008 at 7:06 AM

I purchased a Cascadia from Tyler Truck Sales and I must say truck is very disappointing. I am getting like 5.4mpg running at 68mph and I'm not even pulling 80,000lbs. I also had problems with the gauges, the fogs lights don't work and the rear load lights don't work and on top of that the truck doesn't have the power it should. I made a very bad decision, the truck was advertised at 6-8mpg thats a joke I was tricked thank you.
Posted by Lance Batchelor on March 13, 2008 at 3:00 PM

That's 2 strikss for Cascadia, Freightliner Do You Have Your Ears On! Sorry to hear that Lance, Thanks for sharing.
Posted by TruckerJim on March 13, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Lance and regretful, we leased a cascadia in february and have had the same problems. As a matter of fact the truck is in the shop as we speak. Lance- the power issue. does the cruise turn off on its own? Thats what ours did and we were only getting 5.3-5.5 mpg. They had to replace the jake brake harness, once they did that within 200 miles we were up to 6.3 @ 70 mph. Regretful-as for issue w/lights asnd gauges, before we even signed the lease we had this problem, we only had high beams then all gauges went crazy, even w/key out of ignition. They ended up putting a new SAM computer in it. The SAM runs everything. Since then we haven't had any other electrical issues. Now the check engine & malfunction indicator lamp keep coming on, they replaced the EGR and we had it back for 6 hrs and lights came back on. And we are still waiting.
Posted by eric&crissy on April 2, 2008 at 11:44 AM

wow i bought a 09 cascadia just this month and drove it for a week, and i was only getting 4.6mpg pulling 30,000 in the box. So i took mine to detroit diesel in st paul mn, and they foun 2 out of the 6 injectors bad, and i got detroit diesel to replace all 6 injectors.
Posted by joe on May 13, 2008 at 6:15 PM

Hey Joe thanks for sharing that, Call Detroit!
Posted by TruckerJim on May 13, 2008 at 6:21 PM

Overall iam very happy with the truck, just not the fuel mileage right now. But iam sure over time it will get better as you go down the road, and its all about how you "drive" your truck to obtain the best fuel mileage..
Posted by joe on May 13, 2008 at 6:34 PM

Hey this is joe again, well i got my truck out of the shop and been driving it for 12 days now , and my fuel mileage has been awsome , my mpg were avg 7.8 pulling 40,000 in dry box @67mph. on flat terrain , and in the hills or mountains i get 7.1
Posted by joe on May 22, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Joe: So it was the injectors that made the difference?
Posted by TruckerJim on May 23, 2008 at 3:15 AM

Have steering wheel shake like the wheels aer not bal.I had them bal. + bal. put on all wheels still have shake? shop in Cal.can't find problem Does anyone else have this problem? Also Hi on jake doesent work was told thats the way it works with the turbo??
Posted by paul hill on May 30, 2008 at 5:10 AM

I have an '08 cascadia. Got it in March. I drove it for 3 months OTR. Colorado rockies, Cheyenne, Donner's pass, name it. I averaged no less than 6.25mpg with an average of 43,000lbs(67mph) in the back of the reefer. Now that I am on the east coast(Boston-Charolotte), I am getting 8.10mpg(fith wheel all the way to the back) carrying aprox. 15,000lbs. The only time I have ever seen 5.?mog is when I left the fuel cap off....
Posted by Big J on August 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM

I just purcashed a cascadia 08,& this truck is very disappointing also.. I'm getting 5.2-5.6 at 68 mph.. I've tryed to find the sweet spot but still nothing more than 5.6..the cabs light were stuck on so i had to remove them to dive at night.. I have to slam my door to get it to stop beebing.. It is an auto shift and when im using reveres its in and out of gear rolling forward if im not applying gas or brake every second & feels like im riding a bull.. has anyone else had these problems..
Posted by Dan turner on September 15, 2008 at 2:43 PM

Hello All! I drive a 2008 freightliner columbia ... I so impressed over the last month with the fuel mileage that I had to post it. An average of 3.2 km/L or 9.6 m/G, over a span of 3100 kms. Now for the impressive part 70 % of the driving was in Downtown Toronto in January 2009, not highway driving. All calculations were provided by my on board computer XATA. measured at the fuel pump.
Posted by Stephen Thibodeau on January 30, 2009 at 8:51 PM

I to Have an 08 Cascadia with a DD15 in it 560hp it pulls 140,000lbs and I'm getting 5.7 to 6.0mpg with it and Im happy with the fuel milage but thats all Im happy with. my windows are leaking my cb and other radios are not working right think it needs to be grounded better my back up lights are rusted out i have a sanless viser and its rusting around the blots my cruise shuttts off on its own thought it was just a rough rd i was on but now i think its not my wipers say on and will not shutt off till they want to and it does go on and on but Im hoping they will make it right for us here but if not then it will be the last one we buy I would realy take a good look at them befor you buy but just so u no we also have the pro star and its worse in fuel milage and in shop but thats a nother story thanks
Posted by frank on February 1, 2009 at 3:16 PM

I am just wondering if anyone here is having issues with the DPF system?
Posted by Steve Mason on February 28, 2009 at 8:05 AM

I just leased a '09 Cascadia and sorry I did. It was in the shop for 3 days before I had two thousand miles on it. The cab leaked like a submarine with a screen window and the drive axle seals weep like a bride left standing at the altar. After the shop time the axles still leak but I don't know about the cab. My fuel economy is a poor 5.5 even if I spend the entire day at 55 mph. I miss my good ol' century!
Posted by Tom Perry on March 2, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Team drive an 07 Cascadia. More noise in the cab than expected. Great ride and handling. Wish it had more power for hills but, it is a company truck. By the way, where did they hide the fuel filters?
Posted by Chris Bacher on March 15, 2009 at 6:35 PM

team in a 09, have been having constant problems with water leaking into the cab, has been in the shop 9 times fo this problem and and is back in shop again. i also am having problem with the poor fuel mileage along with alot of other little problems that freightliner can't seem to figure out.
Posted by Alan on May 5, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Hey Alan, is there any place on the freightliner website to leave feedback? They need to know this type of info.
Posted by TruckerJim on May 5, 2009 at 6:00 PM

I'm back again. Please do not buy this truck. My fuel mileage was a little above 5 miles a gallon and it stayed like that for 80000 miles which means that I lost a lot of money and I'm a independent contractor. I took it the shop 6 six times no one knew what the problem was, I finally took it to stewart and stevenson in Houston, Tx. I turns out that they had engine set at 242 hp as soon as they set it back to 515 I was getting a little above 6 which still is not why I bought the truck. My next problem was the shaking in the steering wheel, they said my tires were not balanced, my tires are brand new you do the math. Next was a bad hesitation I took my truck to LaGrange, Or and they had me in the shop for 5 days replaced the computer, 300 miles after I leave the same damn problem. I took the truck to freightliner in Md, and they sam cad and sam chasis wasn't communicating and the freightliner in Oregon said they programmed it and they charged me $300. I finally took the truck to jacksonville, fl after getting the freightliner rep invovled and they finally fixed it. A month later I broke down again the regin tank had a hole thank god they had the parts but they still don't know why that happenend. This truck is pretty much a experiment and we got involved. I will never buy another freightliner in my life after this one. Everyone else I talk to says the same shit. I pay $2500 a months for headaches and problems, please don't buy this truck wait a couple of years and let them work the bugs out. They had put out a product without doing the proper test and they know it.
Posted by Lance on May 13, 2009 at 12:13 AM

Wow Lance, sounds like a very frustrating and expensive series of events, are you listening Freightliner?
Posted by TruckerJim on May 13, 2009 at 4:30 AM

My 2008 Cascadia has been in the shop 49 times in almost 7 months. I am down $32,000 in downtime and $28,000 in revenue from the time last year. This is the truck from Hell and Freightliner completely ignores that they have any obligation to pay back any of it.
Posted by Dan Mahoney on June 30, 2009 at 7:54 PM

My employer purchased a 2008 Freightliner Cascadia and it has had nothing but problems. For instance, an electrical fire, engine overhaul, egr valve(3 times), broken exhaust screw, interior cab lights stay illuminated(forced to pull bulbs), leaky seals, check engine/engine malfunction indicator constanly illuminated, required parked regen for the first year of operation, bad altenator, bad radiator, low power,and the problems persist. The truck has 60,000 miles. Peice of crap!
Posted by JROCK on August 24, 2009 at 4:46 PM

I bought my very first truck in July '08 after years of being a company driver. I searched long and hard for the best truck out there. I chose the Cascadia for its good aerodynamics, and the good press it initially got. I also chose the new DD15 engine. What a mistake. My truck broke down in my first run, not even 2,000 clicks on it. I will spare the details but in my first 3 months of ownership, the truck spent 5 weeks in various shops. Here's the extensive list of what was repaired/replaced; MCM, SAM cabin, dozen of re-flashes, leaky windshields and side windows, cold boost pipe, delta P sensor, jake brake harness/solenoid, DPF unit, MFS switch, power steering pump. My MPGs also have been very average, ranging from near 7s when empty to low 6s when fairly loaded. I spent a couple of months in the mid to high 5s, but after changing the power steering pump, it got back to the usual but still varies wildly from week to week. To this day, still over half of the Freightliner shops don't have trained technicians to work on the DD15, so they can't even touch it. Their engineers are slow and incompetent. I lost a lot of time thus money over this (10,000$+), I almost went bankrupt, and Freightliner has been nothing but inconsiderate and incompetent. Right now, my exhaust is cracked, and it seems you can't replace the bulb in the side cab blinkers, you have to change the whole thing... just some more small needles in my skin in what has turned out to be a weekly nightmare of owning a Freightliner Cascadia! WARNING: PURCHASE/LEASE ONE AT OWN RISK!!!
Posted by Jay on September 6, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Thanks for your comments Jay, sounds horrific at best. Hey Freightliner are you hearing this?
Posted by TruckerJim on September 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM

For all you drivers with Cascadia problems is nothing compared to what I have endoured. Give yourself a hour to actual view this dangerous tractor it will shock you. My 2008 has put me in the hole $32,000.00 in one year. Go to I hope this will help you
Posted by dan on November 5, 2009 at 7:25 AM

Dan, thanks for sharing. I've been checking on this thread from time to time to see if anyone else has had problems with Cascadias. You did endure the Freightliner hell too, but you should indeed consider yourself lucky... Why? Because you have a Mercedes engine and not a DD15 from Detroit. I have the DD15, and like I said in my previous post, to this day over HALF of the Freightliners across North America DON'T have trained technicians to work on the DD15 so they can't even touch it. What that means my friend is that you have to drive hundreds of miles out of your way (or have it towed there at extra expense to you) to a dealer that actually CAN touch the DD15. You were lucky that every dealer you went to could diagnose and actually try to get some work done. I didn't have that luxury went I broke down numerous times. Most of the problems you've had with you truck we share. So that means it is really the Cascadia that is defective right out of the factory. Me, they tried to pin every problem on the new Detroit engine, it seems they are wrong. Sadly, we are doing Freightliner's R&D for them at our OWN expense. Unfortunatly, some owner/operators DID go bankrupt because of this truck. Word is everyone that tried to suit them has lost in court. We are the lucky ones who have survived through the personal sacrifice of our own wallets. Heck, I've only made myself $3,500 this past year and had to go live back at my mum & dad's, and sell/cancel everything that had some sort of monthly payments. Yet, Freightliner claim they are not responsible for destroying our lives. They should be ashamed of this!
Posted by Jay on November 5, 2009 at 8:54 AM

Jay this is a major problem. Ihope that you will view my web page and please if you can send the link to your buds on the road and ask them to do the same. We can do something if they receive a lot of complaints. Thanks for the come back
Posted by dan on November 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Oh, I know that it's a major problem. I did check out your webpage (that's how I knew you had a MBE engine) and I commend you for taking the time and expense to put it up. I just hope more people will research their next truck online before buying a Freightliner and will find your web page. I've also sent you an email explaining in further details what I've been through plus some other stories I've heard. We are indeed NOT alone in this. I've already talked to many people about the "Cascadia Hell", including those who come and see me in truckstops. The word is starting to get out there my friend, we just need to keep at it! Again, kudos to you for putting up that web page.
Posted by Jay on November 5, 2009 at 9:37 AM

I have to upgrade my fleet for the 2010 California CARB program. I was very excited to investigate the new Freightliners. After Jan 1, We will not be able to enter the Port to do business unless we meet the emmission standards. Thank you for supplying feedback on the new Freightliners. It looks like I will spend my money on retrofitting my older trucks with smog devices rather than wasting money on worthless trucks.Freightliner needs to get serious or they will end up like GM. I am sorry to hear that Freightliner does not recognize how much our lives depend on their quality issues. best regards Larry
Posted by Larry on December 22, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Damn, everyone is going through it and sad to hear it. That truck nearly broke me hauling regular freight thank go for the furniture business or I would be in the same situation. I wish I could trade mines but I have 200000 miles on it and I am in the hole. You know when the companies start complaining something will eventually be done because the downtime that we are complaining about they are feeling it too. Freightliner simply put out a product without doing research on it. Its that simple and we pay for it. Just keep praying and trucking and never by a freightliner again seriously.
Posted by Lance Batchelor on January 5, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Lance my 2008 is in the shop again. This is now (are you sitting down) 64 times in the shop in one year and 3 months. I have sent out lawyers letters to the parties in question and have given them to Jan 10/2010 to respons. As of yet no response. May I suggest that if you know of any other dreives with similar problems get them to post their problems on this board. Just maybe if enough of the guys and gals put their problems somewhere where lots of people see it, then we can show many more why the should not but a freightliner.
Posted by dan on January 6, 2010 at 8:21 AM

That's a great idea Dan, I can't believe Freightliner is not monitoring their brand! Why would they not listen to what their buyers are saying? How in the hell are you supposed to run a business with your truck in the shop every week!
Posted by TruckerJim on January 6, 2010 at 8:32 AM

Our company put us into a cascadia dd15 last year. We are a team and have had nothing but problems with it. The first week the fuel line was kinked and the clutch switch malfunctioned. Since then we had the motor overhauled twice so far and we are looking at a possible third time right now @ 160,000miles. Other problems include political maneuverings with the warranty resulting in major down times.
Posted by sharon on March 11, 2010 at 3:30 PM

Sharon I have a 2008 Cascadia and as I type my tractor has been in the shop 70 days in 14 months. I am now into a lawyer mess which will cost me thousands. Freightliner has said that they will at this time do nothing. They know we do not have millions to fight this battle in court. A lot of your proboems like mine is cause by the company that sold you the truck did not do a proper PDI ( Pre delivery inspection). I wish I could give you more info but there is none with this truck. I have also been told by my lawyer that I had to take down my website showing all the things that went wrong with my truck because I could be sued. So they can tell you all the lies of the truck, but you cannot tell the truth about the truck.
Posted by dan on March 16, 2010 at 12:13 PM

2009 Cascadia 14L series 60 engine. I got the truck with 191,xxx miles on it, first load, 37k lbs, my jaw dropped, I wasn't even getting 4mpg...Took the truck to Detroit diesel, they did an overhead, I am now struggling to stay above 5mpg pulling 10 to 20k pound loads. I took the truck to freightliner and back to Detroit diesel, and they both said "it's aas good as its going to get" FYI my idle time is at 12% and It is governed at 67mph and I even tried setting the cruise at 62 for 2 weeks, it did no good.
Posted by never buying another on April 10, 2010 at 10:14 PM

Adding to my previous post, I now have 238,xxx miles on my POS Cascadia... It is a lease/purchase and I ask the company how far behind I am... I am $6700 behind the payment because way too much of my revenue is going in the fuel tank. The only way I am surviving is that the company pays me a guaranteed $0.25/mile whether my expenses are covered or not.
Posted by never buying another on April 10, 2010 at 10:20 PM

On your 2009 if I was you I would check the horsepower rating I believe its suppose to be set a 442 or somewhere around that. My truck was set at 250hp or some around that and my fuel mileage was in the 4's, so try that it might help. It could also be a problem with the regeneration process when it goes through its cycle try watching the gallons of fuel it uses, hopefully you have the digital fuel reader on the dash, but you may be going through that process too often. If that doesn't work take it to Steward and Stevenson they are the real pros when it comes to these new engines you might want to get it dynoed. I would rather pay 300 for the dyno instead of getting 4 miles a gallon for the next 100000 miles. Honestly freightliner knows what they are doing and really don't care, but we can do is not give them our business next time. Thank god my truck has been running good for the past 40000 miles. I pray for all of you that are experiencing hardships because this trucking business is already rough but on top of that you have to go through all this bs with a truck stay praying and don't give these people anymore business. Better yet write obama and tell him whats going on. LOL
Posted by lance batchelor on April 11, 2010 at 7:18 PM

Thank you Lance, the horsepower setting is what I expect the problem to be, unfortunately the company I am leasing the truck from believes that less power=better fuel economy, so they will not allow me to raise the power...If I do have someone do it, I would get de-certified... But I don't see any other choice. LMAO write obama about it, it is HIS company though. hmmmmmmm
Posted by never buying another on April 12, 2010 at 12:13 AM

What the heck is this. What does this have to do with trucking
Posted by dan on June 29, 2010 at 11:12 AM

That was spam Dan, all removed!
Posted by TruckerJim on June 29, 2010 at 11:33 AM